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Post by B-rad on Jun 5, 2013 11:27:16 GMT -5
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Post by B-rad on Jun 5, 2013 11:28:06 GMT -5
Watch "Graphic Rage Broadhead Highlights"
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Post by goosepondmonster on Jun 5, 2013 14:01:27 GMT -5
They can show all the highlights they want, but I don't see any reason to switch from a broadhead that will work every time to a broadhead that may not work every time.
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Post by B-rad on Jun 6, 2013 13:01:11 GMT -5
They can show all the highlights they want, but I don't see any reason to switch from a broadhead that will work every time to a broadhead that may not work every time. There are lots of things that can go wrong with any broadhead IMO. |
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Post by jsanders on Jun 6, 2013 15:52:29 GMT -5
I shoot G5 T3 but the rage is interesting. Variety is the spice of life though so I may try them.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Jun 7, 2013 7:36:45 GMT -5
They can show all the highlights they want, but I don't see any reason to switch from a broadhead that will work every time to a broadhead that may not work every time. There are lots of things that can go wrong with any broadhead IMO. A fixed blade broadhead? I don't see how they could fail if the shot is placed properly. A mechanical broadhead could deploy during flight causing the arrow to go off target. A mechanical broadhead can fail to deploy on contact and wind up wounding an animal. I don't see how either of these things could happen with a fixed blade broadhead. |
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Post by B-rad on Jun 7, 2013 21:00:32 GMT -5
I've had 3 main problems with I've had with fixed blades.
1. After minimal shooting, I find that on the multiple piece ones, all the components can wear down. Not locking together=bad flight.
2. Any of them are very hard to get them to fly correctly.
3. Once bent (with one pieces) Your screwed. No more broadhead.
On top of that, a Rage will give you ALOT more room for error. Now ontop of rages ORing +now the new shock collar system it's nearly impossible to open without hitting anything solid. And with the rear deploying blade design, you'd have to have really screwed that broadhead up for it not to open
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Post by B-rad on Jun 7, 2013 21:03:11 GMT -5
Granted, Fixed blades do the job! And they have for a long time. And there are a lot of of expandable designs that I definitely do not like. But I stack the odds in my favor for the best chance at a clean, ethical, quick kill. Rage is the answer.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Jun 8, 2013 11:44:02 GMT -5
Until it opens in flight or fails to open on impact. I never have to worry about that with a Muzzy.
The other thing about mechanicals is pass through shots. A lot of the folks on TV use mechanicals and it seems that very few of them pass through. I'd rather have two holes dumping blood instead of one.
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Post by B-rad on Jun 8, 2013 17:42:08 GMT -5
As I said, the new shock collars+original O-rings take care of opening in flight, and the rear deploying blades take care of not opening. I've shot 3 deer with rage, with my youth bow at 60lbs, all of them passed through, including a double shoulder blade pass. None went over 60 yards. I tried shooting muzzy 75 grains for awhile, but could never get them to fly straight.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Jun 10, 2013 10:09:12 GMT -5
Therein lies the other problem with the mechanical heads. "Flies just like a field point." Instead of folks taking the time to tune their bow to accurately shoot a fixed blade they go with the mechanicals, because it is easier and it "expands their kill zone." Marginal shot? Go ahead and shoot, because the Rage will do the trick no matter the angle.
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Post by B-rad on Jun 10, 2013 15:00:26 GMT -5
What's the problem with that? why not make as little adjustments as possible? Expanding your kill zone is bad? Obviously you have to pick and choose your shots. Why would you want to spend unnecessary time tuning your bow and dulling broadheads when you can pick up a tip that'll cut your field arrows in half with no adjustments? A 2"+ cut WILL give you more ethical kills, and more room for the chance that you make an error in your shot. You can't say that you've never made a bad shot before, on a deer or anything.
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Post by B-rad on Jun 10, 2013 15:18:52 GMT -5
Here are two not so great shots I made with Rage. 1st one was my first deer, excitement got to me a little. Zipped right through her and stuck pretty well into the ground. The blood was ridiculous, and she went around 20 yards.  This one was trust, but a little further forward than I wanted. trusting your equipment IS essential. This doe was a HOSS. And went 60 yards, broadhead passed through both sides and the arrow broke halfway through.  |
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Post by goosepondmonster on Jun 11, 2013 8:51:12 GMT -5
What's the problem with that? why not make as little adjustments as possible? Expanding your kill zone is bad? Obviously you have to pick and choose your shots. Why would you want to spend unnecessary time tuning your bow and dulling broadheads when you can pick up a tip that'll cut your field arrows in half with no adjustments? A 2"+ cut WILL give you more ethical kills, and more room for the chance that you make an error in your shot. You can't say that you've never made a bad shot before, on a deer or anything. I might be crazy, but I want my bow shooting at its most efficient. Throwing on a mechanical broadhead just because I'm too lazy to tune the bow properly doesn't seem like the sporty thing to do. The whole "expand your kill zone" bit is a gimmick that a lot of folks have bought into and, in my opinion, leads to people taking shots that they shouldn't be trying. I have tuned both of my bows to shoot 100 grain Muzzys and neither time did it take me much more than thirty minutes. I'm not sure how that could be considered unnecessary time, I called it practice. If you don't have practice blades, they make these magical tools called sharpeners that you can use on the blades of the broadheads. Again, there's that Kool Aid drinking about the bigger cut of the mechanical blade. I'm sure the bigger cut helps, but what about when it hits and doesn't open? Yeah, yeah, they say that won't happen. Rage broadheads are mechanical, it is always a possibility. I've only shot two deer with a bow, but neither was a bad shot as both deer crashed within sight. I won't take a shot that I consider marginal, but when you "expand your kill zone" you have folks taking shots at bad angles just because the Rage will make up for the bad angle...or at least that is what they are led to believe. |
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Post by B-rad on Jun 11, 2013 11:17:06 GMT -5
By the time you've tuned your bow and sharpened all of your broad heads, you could've spent an hour doing real practice, or scouting, hanging stands, etc. Whether you want to believe it or not, rage does expand your kill zone. If you take proper care of the broadhead, there should be no problem of it not opening. Whether or not people take bad shots with it, is not the broadheads fault.
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