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Post by Greenedog on Nov 17, 2014 12:01:42 GMT -5
The proposed rule change: (4) A rifle must fire a cartridge that meets the following specifications: (A) Fire a bullet of three hundred fifty seven thousandths (.357)two hundred forty three thousandths (.243)of an inch diameter or larger. (B) Have a minimum case length of one and sixteen hundredths (1.16) inches. (C) Have a maximum case length of one and eight tenths (1.8) inches.Full metal jacketed bullets are unlawful. The timeline for the rule change:Preliminary Adoption September 16, 2014 Proposed Rule Submitted to Publisher February 2015 Public Hearing(s) March 2015 Final Adoption May 2015 Effective August 2015 This rule change is open for public comment, go to www.in.gov/nrc/2377.htm and scroll down to "FW: Biennial Rule Amendment Package" where you can view the entire rule change and post a comment.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Nov 17, 2014 12:19:11 GMT -5
I surely hope it doesn't pass, but looks like it has some legs.
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Post by Greenedog on Nov 17, 2014 13:31:12 GMT -5
I'm still on the fence about it. I'd love to be able to use the rifles, but it scares me to death thinking of a rifle in the hand of some of the idiots out there hunting.
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Post by strippitman on Nov 17, 2014 15:31:05 GMT -5
I'm on the fence too. Up here in the northern part of the state where I hunt the land is very flat which means a bullet could travel a great distance before coming to rest. Also, the country blocks are rather small and littered with homes and it just seems like too congested of an area to be using rifles with the ranges that these newly added calibers will have. I also see a lot more deer getting wounded, or killed but not found. Think about it, if you shoot a deer that is 350-400yds out across a field, do you realize how difficult it will be to pinpoint exactly where the deer was standing at the point of impact to begin your blood trailing? Just my two cents.
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Post by spainy79 on Nov 17, 2014 17:04:00 GMT -5
I don't care either way but if I have to pick a side I say "No". Would I like to? Yes. Do I need to? No.
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Post by anthonydykes on Nov 17, 2014 19:28:32 GMT -5
I am on the fence as well. I would love to use "SOME" of the high caliber rifles for deer here, but I agree with the statements about some of our local yahoos using them. I myself, (as well as most of you here likely have to some extent), have had Gun safety training, completed Hunters Education and Safety courses, and as an Armed Forces Veteran I have had the honor of receiving a fair amount of training in Weapons handling and functionality. Now, with that said, I am by no means the Best shot, or most professional hunter in the woods, but I try. A lot of guys out there can't kill a deer at 20-40 yards with a shotgun as it is. They either wound the animal and never find them, or they completely miss and who knows where the shot lands. Then there's always that guy who will read this rule and say, "Huh, Minimum bullet size of .243, and NO MAX CASE LENGHT? shoot, I'M GONNA TAKE MY 50 BMG OUT ON OPENING DAY!!!" Bottom line, will I vote for it? Yes, will everyone? No. But that's why there is a public opinion allowed and requested for a topic like this.
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Post by anthonydykes on Nov 17, 2014 19:30:06 GMT -5
And before someone says it, NO, I am not the guy carrying the 50 out on opening day. Contrary to popular belief.  |
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Post by octrophies on Nov 18, 2014 8:38:12 GMT -5
recipe for disaster in this state. There will be a lot of property damage and lawsuits.
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Post by anthonydykes on Nov 19, 2014 20:55:19 GMT -5
^^ I have to Disagree ^^ I don't think it's going to be AS BAD as everyone is thinking. Sure there will be a few cases, but I think if the penalties and punishments for BLATANT-NEGLECT are strict enough, then those first few cases will be examples enough for people to wise up.
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Post by jsanders on Nov 20, 2014 8:03:32 GMT -5
So my Remington 700 VTR .308 would be a legal deer rifle here in Indiana?
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Post by Greenedog on Nov 20, 2014 8:38:40 GMT -5
So my Remington 700 VTR .308 would be a legal deer rifle here in Indiana? If it has a minimum case length of one and sixteen hundredths (1.16) inches and isn't FMJ. At least that's how I read the proposed change? |
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Post by jsanders on Nov 20, 2014 15:57:32 GMT -5
I don't think I like the idea of that. Too many people that don't know or don't care with high powered rifles on opening day could be very scary. A guy that lives down the road from me is butted agaist public hunting grounds and has shotgun slugs hit his brick home.
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Post by Greenedog on Dec 5, 2014 11:12:45 GMT -5
DNR Wild Bulletin Indiana Department of Natural Resources 402 W. Washington St. Indianapolis, IN 46204-2748 For immediate release: Dec. 3, 2014 NRC accepting public comment on rules proposalsThe Natural Resources Commission is accepting public comment on proposed changes to a number of administrative rules related to the management of fish and wildlife in Indiana. The Commission is an autonomous board that addresses issues pertaining to the Indiana Department of Natural Resources. The Commission includes the DNR director, heads of three other state agencies (Environmental Management, Tourism, and Transportation), six citizens appointed by the governor on a bipartisan basis, the chair of the Commission’s advisory council, and the president of the Indiana Academy of Science. Currently open for comment are amendments to several rules governing deer hunting, including the use of high-powered rifles during deer hunting season, as well as bag limits on panfish, and a suspension of the ruffed grouse hunting season. The proposals are collectively referred to as the Biennial Rule Amendment Package. Also open for comment is a proposed rule to establish a river otter trapping season. The river otter proposal comment deadline is Dec. 11. A public hearing is set for 5:30 p.m. that day at the Plainfield Public Library, 1120 Stafford Road in Plainfield. The NRC Division of Hearings accepts public comments three ways: • By regular mail, sent to NRC Division of Hearings, Indiana Government Center North, 100 North Senate Ave., Room N501, Indianapolis, IN, 46204. • Through an online comment form at www.IN.gov/nrc/2377.htm. Find the chart at the bottom of the page to look for the proposed rule you want to comment on. The comment form link is in the right column. • At a public hearing. Public hearing notices are posted in the fifth column of the chart at www.IN.gov/nrc/2377.htm. Background on the proposed changes is available at wildlife.IN.gov/2362.htm. Also available on that web page is information on proposed changes to rules governing size and bag limits for catfish and several permits/commercial licenses that received preliminary adoption by the NRC. The online comment form has not been posted yet for these proposals, but written comments can be sent to the NRC Division of Hearings at the address listed. Public hearings and comment deadlines have not been scheduled yet for the catfish proposal, the biennial rule amendment package, or the permit/commercial license rule package. Sign up for Wild Bulletin to receive updates about these proposed rule changes that will include deadlines for comments and public hearing information at wildlife.IN.gov/5704.htmFor questions or more information email dfwinput@dnr.IN.gov
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Post by anthonydykes on Apr 2, 2015 10:26:32 GMT -5
Does anyone know the outcome of these proposed changes? Has this been voted on yet?
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Post by spainy79 on Apr 2, 2015 10:49:11 GMT -5
I don't believe it has been voted on yet. I think next month.
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Just another night at work for me and Monty will be back here again bright and early. 
