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Post by strippitman on Sept 19, 2013 7:47:17 GMT -5
Brian, please explain to me what your beloved Browns are thinking?? It's no wonder the Browns are perennial losers. The Colts gave up a 2014 first round draft pick to get last years first round #3 pick overall. It is pretty likely that the Colts will finish in the top 15 in the league and possibly even the top 10. So, the Browns gave up the #3 pick for a potential #20 pick next spring....I'm totally baffled?? Please enlighten me Brian On the other hand, the Colts made a huge move forward with this pickup. Not good for Ahmad Bradshaw owners in fantasy football, though.
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Post by Greenedog on Sept 19, 2013 8:31:02 GMT -5
Chase sent me a text when I got off work last night and told me the news. First thing I did when I got home was check out Brian's tweets! Some good stuff. I've always been a running back guy, so I'm tickled pink. I just can't help but wonder if there's something the Browns know that we don't about Richardson? They were already on pace to get the top pick next year and get their QB, now they need a RB too.
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Post by goosepondmonster on Sept 19, 2013 8:51:27 GMT -5
I saw on TV last night that they didn't think he fit what they wanted to do offensively. I was wondering when was the last time the Browns did anything on offense.
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Post by strippitman on Sept 19, 2013 14:34:51 GMT -5
I saw on TV last night that they didn't think he fit what they wanted to do offensively. I was wondering when was the last time the Browns did anything on offense. I heard that as well but the only thing I could think was...Didn't they realize this a year ago when they drafted him? The Browns have been trying to rebuild during my entire lifetime. Why don't they do things to try to win now instead of doing things to try and win in the future? The future never gets here for them
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Post by Greenedog on Sept 19, 2013 14:49:40 GMT -5
The Browns have been trying to rebuild during my entire lifetime. Whattaya mean?? They won the Superbowl in 2000! I shouldn't be laughing....I am a Cubs fan after all.
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Post by IndyColts222 on Sept 19, 2013 18:19:48 GMT -5
That should work out fine for the Colts, and now they have a decent running game this year. But, I own Ahmad Bradshaw in fantasy and I was pretty excited when he moved to starting position. He did pretty well too. Oh well ... Trent Richardson didn't have much time to learn the offense either...
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Post by goosepondmonster on Sept 20, 2013 6:01:53 GMT -5
I saw on TV last night that they didn't think he fit what they wanted to do offensively. I was wondering when was the last time the Browns did anything on offense. I heard that as well but the only thing I could think was...Didn't they realize this a year ago when they drafted him? The Browns have been trying to rebuild during my entire lifetime. Why don't they do things to try to win now instead of doing things to try and win in the future? The future never gets here for them He was drafted by a different coaching staff...I think.
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Post by strippitman on Sept 20, 2013 7:57:32 GMT -5
I heard that as well but the only thing I could think was...Didn't they realize this a year ago when they drafted him? The Browns have been trying to rebuild during my entire lifetime. Why don't they do things to try to win now instead of doing things to try and win in the future? The future never gets here for them He was drafted by a different coaching staff...I think. You are correct but still the same owners. The owners of the Browns have been trying to find direction for as long as I can remember. They are on their 7th different head coach since 2000! How can you have any direction when you are changing coaches more often than your players are changing their underwear? Also, if Trent Richardson does not fit into "what they want to do offensively", then what is it that they want to do offensively? I didn't realize that being a running back that is quick and strong were not good attributes to have. Evidently he wasn't slow enough, or weak enough, to fit into what it is the Browns do. Sorry Brian
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Post by strippitman on Sept 20, 2013 8:04:56 GMT -5
The Browns have been trying to rebuild during my entire lifetime. Whattaya mean?? They won the Superbowl in 2000! That is hilarious! Of course they won it as the Baltimore Ravens after Art Modell moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore just a few years prior to that. Just think, Cleveland could've had their 2nd super bowl title last season. I'll bet Browns fans love Art Modell!
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Post by goosepondmonster on Sept 21, 2013 11:16:25 GMT -5
Whattaya mean?? They won the Superbowl in 2000! That is hilarious! Of course they won it as the Baltimore Ravens after Art Modell moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore just a few years prior to that. Just think, Cleveland could've had their 2nd super bowl title last season. I'll bet Browns fans love Art Modell! Just like Baltimore fans love the Colts ownership.
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Post by Greenedog on Sept 22, 2013 18:54:36 GMT -5
Seems to have worked for both teams this week. And where the heck has Brian been!!
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Post by Brian on Sept 22, 2013 23:10:02 GMT -5
I was pretty shocked when I first heard the news, but I actually don't mind the trade at all now. We have a ton of picks in next year's draft and that is going to put us into position to dramatically improve the offense and solidify the defense even more, especially in the secondary. We will have to see if they succeed in picking the right guys to really know if the trade was worth it.
Trent Richardson was not the stud RB that everyone thought he was by watching him in college. In over 300 career carries, he has had only 2 rushes for 20+ yards. He likes to dance in the backfield instead of hitting the hole hard and he is not as fast as he thinks he is. He's definitely strong and has great pass catching ability, but I think Jim Brown was right when he called Richardson an "ordinary back" shortly after the Browns drafting him. He is certainly no Adrian Peterson and that 2.7 YPC today is really indicative of what he can do.
He was drafted by the last regime and under a different owner. Players have said that he did not engage with teammates and was often late to injury treatments. He complained about not getting enough carries even when we gave him the ball 20 times and he didn't do much with it.
The problem with the Browns is that every new regime that comes in gets rid of all the guys that don't fit their scheme or their system and then are forced to rebuild. Terrible drafting has led to regimes getting fired and new ones being hired so it becomes a vicious circle of rebuilding. I think that under our new owner and with the regime in place now that we are finally close to being a playoff team within the next year or two.
Our defense is dominant and we looked pretty darn good today with no real RB and our third-string QB playing. Granted, it was against the Vikings but they were a playoff team last year. We certainly didn't miss Richardson and looked competitive. I hope he helps you guys, but I think it was the right move for our team. We'll see what happens the rest of the year and in the draft. Go Browns!
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Post by Brian on Sept 22, 2013 23:12:17 GMT -5
He was drafted by a different coaching staff...I think. You are correct but still the same owners. The owners of the Browns have been trying to find direction for as long as I can remember. They are on their 7th different head coach since 2000! How can you have any direction when you are changing coaches more often than your players are changing their underwear? Also, if Trent Richardson does not fit into "what they want to do offensively", then what is it that they want to do offensively? I didn't realize that being a running back that is quick and strong were not good attributes to have. Evidently he wasn't slow enough, or weak enough, to fit into what it is the Browns do. Sorry Brian We have a new owner now in Jimmy Haslem. No more Randy Lerner who was more interested in his soccer team and only owned the team because his dad did. I'll give you strong on Richardson, but quick is a stretch.
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Post by Greenedog on Sept 23, 2013 18:41:48 GMT -5
Thanks for the insight, Brian! Although I'll always root for Indy in the AFC, I'd certainly like to see the Browns and Bengals keep those other 2 teams in that division on bottom.
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Post by Brian on Oct 3, 2013 23:56:04 GMT -5
Dem Browns now 3-0 without Richardson. That 3.0 YPC is brutal. One of Richardson's big problems is he doesn't follow the plays called. Our 6 time Pro Bowl left tackle Joe Thomas who has played every snap since we drafted him in 2007 pretty much said that in an interview following the trade. We have Willis McGahee now and he follows the plays and gets some yards.
Richardson could run past and over people in college. That doesn't work in the NFL.
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